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[taratemima]

The sun is shining, it's Purim and Saint Patrick's Day, and I am staring down the possiblity of, well, excuse the alarmism, apocalypse.

In the midst of the tension, some sane talk about discussing neo-conservatism.


Here's a sample:

"#

Among uses of "pro-Israel":

# Support of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state with secure (not-specified) borders.

# Support of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state with the 1949 border lines.

# Support of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state with the 1967 border lines.

# Support of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state everywhere that was once historically ruled by Jews.

# Support of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state wherever the speaker believes borders must be to be secure.

# Support of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, including expelling some or all Arabs and Palestinians."

I am honestly dithering between 1949 and 1968 borders. I usually don't call that last definition 'pro-Israel' so much as 'contravening the whole love the stranger thing' and 'sucking down the crack pipe.'

Sullywatch has some stuff too along those lines.