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Jan. 2nd, 2006 11:55 amThis is a story of checking your sources.
So, OK, I saw this site about PETA and the whole them killing animals they didn't place, and I remembered that lady heading it defending the practice by saying that actual animal shelters don't place all the animals they have and kill those too. Then I notice a link and remember a conversation that I overheard.
pheromone was looking at sites, including something called activistcash and found them connected to another group, something something Consumer Freedom. She thought it was hilarious that their most critical remarks were about people who enspoused vegetarianism, who were against soda machines in schools, and well, it seems to be, against a motley group against crap food and marketing saturating.
Now, I don't like PETA. While bad things can be said about the chicken industry (like how they treat workers, but hey, let's not let silly labor concerns get in the way), comparing it to the Holocaust--yuck. However, is anyone for bland food that costs more to package than make? Is anyone for damn annoying commericals. Now, OK, I can understand profit-making, but you'd think that you can profit from everyone not liking crap. Some companies have done well.
Their line of unintended hilarity was "Imagine a world without Kraft or Nike--pretty bleak, isn't it?" No. Regardless how I feel about these brands, they are useful for someone. However, brand names rise and fall. Capitalism and competition and all that, right (American businesses don't seem to like those concepts anymore than they do minding the tragedy of commons, but hey)? The funny bit this group was also acting like it is a shocking thing that Adbusters would be anti-capitalist. Whoa, and PETA enspouses veganism? Wow, my worldview is blown. From the way she described it, it was so obviously astroturf, that it tipped into comedy.
I was composing a post about being skeptical about sources of information and asking questions about accuracy and self-interest. That the person has a responsiblity, even when you don't like the group. How disappointed I get when I hear people I think would be unlikely to fall for any offfical line parroting some group's talking points (*cough*Scientology*cough*).This is especially true when criticizing something that needs serious changing--chicken industry, mental health care, whatever.
Then I hear about the PETA staffer changing his name and I think--why are these companies spending good money trying to make them look stupid?
So, OK, I saw this site about PETA and the whole them killing animals they didn't place, and I remembered that lady heading it defending the practice by saying that actual animal shelters don't place all the animals they have and kill those too. Then I notice a link and remember a conversation that I overheard.
Now, I don't like PETA. While bad things can be said about the chicken industry (like how they treat workers, but hey, let's not let silly labor concerns get in the way), comparing it to the Holocaust--yuck. However, is anyone for bland food that costs more to package than make? Is anyone for damn annoying commericals. Now, OK, I can understand profit-making, but you'd think that you can profit from everyone not liking crap. Some companies have done well.
Their line of unintended hilarity was "Imagine a world without Kraft or Nike--pretty bleak, isn't it?" No. Regardless how I feel about these brands, they are useful for someone. However, brand names rise and fall. Capitalism and competition and all that, right (American businesses don't seem to like those concepts anymore than they do minding the tragedy of commons, but hey)? The funny bit this group was also acting like it is a shocking thing that Adbusters would be anti-capitalist. Whoa, and PETA enspouses veganism? Wow, my worldview is blown. From the way she described it, it was so obviously astroturf, that it tipped into comedy.
I was composing a post about being skeptical about sources of information and asking questions about accuracy and self-interest. That the person has a responsiblity, even when you don't like the group. How disappointed I get when I hear people I think would be unlikely to fall for any offfical line parroting some group's talking points (*cough*Scientology*cough*).This is especially true when criticizing something that needs serious changing--chicken industry, mental health care, whatever.
Then I hear about the PETA staffer changing his name and I think--why are these companies spending good money trying to make them look stupid?